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标题: 新异模型老车铁鹰1/8越野车修复完成分享: [打印本页]

作者: SUNANCHAO 时间: 20-6-28 11:11
标题: 新异模型老车铁鹰1/8越野车修复完成分享:
新异模型老车铁鹰1/8越野车修复完成分享: 五六年级生的玩家车友应该认识，1988年(和老婆年龄一样幼齿)，这台车在车坛并不长寿约3年，或许名字与纳粹铁鹰有关或向往当时美国的铁鹰及公司外销竞争薄弱所致，在国际上也难见。当年接触到此车，在高雄中正技击馆办的国际资格赛事，当时的我也只能凑热闹。

车子一摆，罚站就30年过去了，有幸碰上疫情锁国封机场不能出门，领补助,领”阵辛劵” ，开着奔驰车只能吃夜市小吃，才得以有时间整理此车，吾想已没有下个30年，真再30年，这车也60岁…，感触良多。

作者: SUNANCHAO 时间: 20-6-28 14:05
总结描述如下:

1.车壳不复存在，参考当年杂志图片。车子整体基调，个人不喜颜色杂零件，所以选件上会比较挑剔，包含HB,Mugen,Kyosho,TSK等，连润滑油颜色也挑。

作者: SUNANCHAO 时间: 20-6-28 14:13
2.底盘自行铣床洗沟，加工底面皿头螺丝用，后再加上碳纤维板做底盘补强，前后共轻100克左右。

作者: SUNANCHAO 时间: 20-6-28 14:15
3.螺丝保留少部分原装攻牙螺丝，其余新的YSF电镀或特定部位土豪金色螺丝，老了脑筋记不住那么多size,这样做方便安装及辨认。

作者: SUNANCHAO 时间: 20-6-28 14:18
4.机件轴承等，先把最讨厌 ~”绿色” ~用坏再换标准黑盖日本NSK。前后版本的铁鹰齿轮箱有大小轴承之差别，个人倾向用早期大轴承齿箱，使差速器稳定些。

作者: SUNANCHAO 时间: 20-6-28 14:30
5.二楼板手工重新制作，电池接收机分开睡各1楼，成了4楼板。油箱的”卫生巾”也更新，可装同公司AX5的新油箱，没有违和感，并预留孔位，等这咖油箱彻底烂了再换上。后避震器座则人体CNC做出加厚至4mm，取后期车Tempo尾翼架做补强，至于当年的铁丝尾扰流翼，过些时候再做。
(亚洲玩家通常称伺服机板为"二楼板")

作者: SUNANCHAO 时间: 20-6-28 14:45
5.二楼板

作者: SUNANCHAO 时间: 20-6-28 14:46
6.遥控器舵机伺服等:之前其他车用的续用，考虑胶件强度及结构设计，并没有装20kg以上拉力的转向Servo，刻意用1/10用的拉杆，30年前2.9kg/JR505还用铁丝拉杆，不也用的好好的，性能当然不能相提并论了。续用PCM/3PK/HRS系统,2.4G系统等用旧了再换上。

作者: SUNANCHAO 时间: 20-6-28 14:50
7.二岁儿子呀呀学语会说"烟当共"(台语:排气管之意)，这次为配合此车，特别改造台制仿洋基管改膨胀室，接口及算长度，也方便那天安装到其他车上，连同前方避震蝴蝶架重新喷鹦哥漆Glasurit-HS烤漆金油，刻意裸露焊接处。

作者: SUNANCHAO 时间: 20-6-28 14:56
8.六角轮座改造及防倾杆座待有空加工，以方便安装现行通用的17mm轮框轮胎，届时顺便将金属大齿轮改造座也换上。

作者: SUNANCHAO 时间: 20-6-28 15:00
9.改天有机会再试跑淫片分享大家，可听听30几年老管子鸟叫声，吾也很久没听过了。
更正: 影

作者: SUNANCHAO 时间: 20-6-28 15:03
10.随时离岛前把握时间接着下一台鸟车火凤凰(台湾译名)继续折腾……鸟类命名的越野车及油漆…天气热昏鸟头了吗你……

祝各位身體健康平安!

作者: SUNANCHAO 时间: 20-6-28 15:14
For English reader and model friends,the article I ve translated into English.Enjoy!

Share with the SinYi model vintage RC nitro off-road Iron Eagle 1/8 rebuild and tuned:

The 60’and 70’ born players should know of this car, 1988 (as young as my wife's age~), it did not live long for about three years at the buggy field, perhaps the name associated with the Nazi iron eagle or yearning for the United States Iron Eagle air-force at that time and the company's weak international export competition and difficult to see on the international market.
I had contacted with this car at the Kaohsiung ZhongZheng (Jhongjheng,
Chiang Kai-shek) Martial Arts Stadium during the race of the international qualification events, at that time, I could only been the cheerleader lively.
30 years have passed after put it into the storage, I am so lucky to encounter the pandemic of the COVID19, airport closed, border blockade, and received subsidies to eat the night market by driving my Mercedes, extra luxury time to rebuild this car, I consider that there is no next 30 years, if it existed, this car will be 60 years old ... ,sentimentally .

1.The car's shell canopy is no longer existed, refer to the 88’s magazine page.
The overall tone of the car, personally does not like much color mixed parts, so the option will be more picky, including HB, Mugen, Kyosho, TSK, etc.,and even the lubricant color also picked.

2.Chassis was been on the milling machine DIY milled, processed the bottom surface for flat head screws, added carbon fiber plate for chassis stronger and reinforcement, and the weight before and after approximately 100 grams lighter.

3. Retained a little part of the original self-tapping screws, renewed the rest of mostly of the YSF coated or the specific part of the “filthy rich gold” screws.
OLD brain cannot remember so many sizes; it is convenient for installation and identification.

4. Parts and bearings, etc.: used first of the most hated “green colure party” green rubber cover bearings till broken and then will change the standard black cover of Japan NSK ones. Early and late version of the iron eagle gearbox had the difference of bearing mount size. Personally prefer with early larger size bearing designed of gear box for the differential case balance and rotational stability.

5.The radio control system board/plate/servo deck had manually re-made instead of the plastic one, the battery pack “sleeps” separately on the “1st floor”, and receiver on” 3rd floor”, becomes the “4th floor board” totally.
(Asian players usually call the deck as “2nd floor plate”)
The fuel tank's seal “tampon” was changed, and reserved the screw holes, the same company AX5's new fuel tank the can be installed with this chassis, there is no sense of disturbance but harmony of the alignment. The AX5’s tank will replace the original tank when completely rotten.
Rear shock absorber tower was the “human CNC” to make thickening to 4mm, took the Tempo buggy’s tail frame as the supporter, the vintage type of wire tail wing will make in some other days.

6.Remote control and servo, etc.: Continued using the device from the other my RC car, considered of the strength of the plastics and structural design, and I did not install the steering servo more than 20kg torque .Deliberately with 1/10 size lever linkage.
30 years ago,2.9kg / JR505 with wire pull rod, we had used at that time, of course, the performance between the servo cannot be compared.
Continued of PCM/3PK/HRS system, 2.4G system will replace later.

7. My 2 years old son the babbles Taiwanese language "yan-dang-gong” (Taiwanese: exhaust, pipe), especially proceeded on the YANKEE copy pipe, recut the expansion chamber, interface , and calculated of the length. It was also convenient for someday installed to the other cars, repainted of the surface and together with the front suspension tower plate by using of the” parrot paint” (Glasurit),HS clear coat, and the welding sites deliberately exposed.

8.The wheel hex modification and anti-tilt bar was to be processed to install of the current type of 17mm hex wheel, the metal gear modification will also be remade and replaced.

9.Some other day the opportunity to try to record the attractive~ film to share everyone for listening to the 30 years old pipe roaring. I have not heard of the sound for a long time.

10. Before leaving this island anytime, seize the time and then the next “bird car” “fire Phoenix” (Taiwan translation for the MUGEN Sport/Supersport) continue to toss myself ...
Bird-named off-road buggy and paint...
big or small head~
feel dizziness at shit hot days, do you?...

Stay healthy and Safe! Thank You very much!

作者: bfbluebear 时间: 20-6-28 15:36
玩家您好

作者: SUNANCHAO 时间: 20-6-28 15:46

bfbluebear 发表于 20-6-28 15:36
玩家您好

Hi,您好

作者: Lu°远 时间: 20-6-30 09:11
楼主太厉害了

作者: lyc90089 时间: 20-6-30 10:50
您的手艺真好，这部铁鹰我有印象，那个时后出了很多1/8越野车，我买的是天豹

作者: 咖啡味道 时间: 20-6-30 21:21
漂亮的铁鹰同底盘我个人更喜欢奇兵的外形更具80年代的风范

作者: 咖啡味道 时间: 20-6-30 21:51

SUNANCHAO 发表于 20-6-28 15:03
10.随时离岛前把握时间接着下一台鸟车火凤凰(台湾译名)继续折腾……鸟类命名的越野车及油漆…天气热昏鸟头 ...

无限精机的火凤凰应该是91-92年的热门冠军车型

作者: SUNANCHAO 时间: 20-7-1 20:33

Lu°远发表于 20-6-30 09:11
楼主太厉害了

您好,純粹是業餘興趣愛好,與大家分享

作者: SUNANCHAO 时间: 20-7-1 20:40

lyc90089 发表于 20-6-30 10:50
您的手艺真好，这部铁鹰我有印象，那个时后出了很多1/8越野车，我买的是天豹

您好,
十分難得聽見車友提起天豹,黑豹,霹靂豹,後期的傲徒,
都是飛點公司(FP racing,Fly Point)當年經典之作.
可說是平價台灣版的YANKEE.
手邊也有一台待整理的黑豹2版,
由於當年台灣的民風還是保守,
市場接受度反而不盡理想,是比較可惜之處.

作者: SUNANCHAO 时间: 20-7-1 20:43

咖啡味道发表于 20-6-30 21:21
漂亮的铁鹰同底盘我个人更喜欢奇兵的外形更具80年代的风范

您好,
骨架車基本上是現今油越的前身祖師爺了

作者: SUNANCHAO 时间: 20-7-1 20:51

咖啡味道发表于 20-6-30 21:51
无限精机的火凤凰应该是91-92年的热门冠军车型

正確!
這台車前身是中陽猛龍 ,被日本再改設計後才變成火鳳凰
於1990-93,个人前後買了第1版,2版,到超級版(SuperSport).
主要以底盤來區別.
白(銀)標準素底,
白(銀)刻字版,
黑色油漆版刻字偷輕,
金色版刻字偷輕,
一堆社外改裝品,最知名的BOSS,Mr.PRO等

作者: 酷乐 时间: 20-7-3 21:58
三十年来梦一场。真的不错。下个三十年也许等不到。所以想做就去做。别等了。

作者: ferrarifan 时间: 20-7-3 22:46
看到此贴一定回复一下。
虽然此车与我同岁(一不小心暴露了年龄)，但是对八九十年代的RC还是充满了回忆。还记得我小时候，大概九几年至2000年，当时很流行油动甲醇车，京商和雷虎算是启蒙时候最常见到的模型，貌似还是拉力车型与越野车型居多？时间久远记忆不清。初次见到时候的惊讶与欣喜算是最难忘的回忆。时至今日却很少有人提及。希望有老玩家像楼主一样慢慢发掘，从80年代，到90年代，陆续排开，一起回忆一下那些璀璨的年华。

作者: 咖啡味道 时间: 20-7-5 19:33

SUNANCHAO 发表于 20-7-1 20:51
正確!
這台車前身是中陽猛龍 ,被日本再改設計後才變成火鳳凰
於1990-93,个人前後買了第1版,2版,到超級 ...

如数家珍一看就是资深玩家有机会能否拍个末代金色底盘看看

作者: SUNANCHAO 时间: 20-7-6 22:51

酷乐发表于 20-7-3 21:58
三十年来梦一场。真的不错。下个三十年也许等不到。所以想做就去做。别等了。

您好,
確實如此,
油越目前市場上真沒哪家車廠願意復刻,
因為機具成本及所謂"市場性能"不同於電動越野車,
吾人曾嘗試要求蛇仔復刻,
設計師Billy 給我的回覆是"您為何不試試新的蛇仔越野車所帶來的性能表現"
於是買了811,
距離吾人上次買蛇仔油越已33年前的事

作者: SUNANCHAO 时间: 20-7-6 23:01

ferrarifan 发表于 20-7-3 22:46
看到此贴一定回复一下。
虽然此车与我同岁(一不小心暴露了年龄)，但是对八九十年代的RC还是充满了回忆。还 ...

您好,
90年代初期至95年左右,
幾乎是油越的輝煌年代,
當然也是各車廠摸索階段的後期,
加上機械製造業工藝的進步之後的千禧年後,
所出現的車款,已經沒有各種奇芭的老味車款了.
手邊尚有幾部從小陪我一起變老的車

,
慢慢整理,他日再分享各位

作者: SUNANCHAO 时间: 20-7-6 23:12

咖啡味道发表于 20-7-5 19:33
如数家珍一看就是资深玩家有机会能否拍个末代金色底盘看看

您好,

翻箱倒櫃就是找不到黃金

,
先看看當時的照片吧
Mugen Sport/SuperSport 歷代底盤
有些底盤
被當時年少無知輕狂的我,
就是要偷輕惡搞,亂鑽洞;
長大了,則是要偷腥 ,亂鑽洞

唉~那些年純真的青春在哪裡?

作者: SUNANCHAO 时间: 20-7-6 23:52

SUNANCHAO 发表于 20-7-6 23:12
您好,

翻箱倒櫃就是找不到黃金 ,

照片分享 Mugen Sport/SuperSport 歷代底盤

作者: SUNANCHAO 时间: 20-7-7 00:04
老照片分享 Mugen Sport/SuperSport 金底盤

作者: 咖啡味道 时间: 20-7-7 22:27

SUNANCHAO 发表于 20-7-7 00:04
老照片分享 Mugen Sport/SuperSport 金底盤

谢谢分享我也是第一次见金底盘

作者: 天池 时间: 20-7-8 14:29
很有时代感的车型不知铁鹰用什么引擎不见有车身完整图片

作者: SUNANCHAO 时间: 20-7-11 22:49

天池发表于 20-7-8 14:29
很有时代感的车型不知铁鹰用什么引擎不见有车身完整图片

您好,
目前安裝在這台鐵鷹的引擎是GO(1版)7掃金頭,完整車體照片分享如下

作者: 天池 时间: 20-7-12 11:15

SUNANCHAO 发表于 20-7-11 22:49
您好,
目前安裝在這台鐵鷹的引擎是GO(1版)7掃金頭,完整車體照片分享如下

谢谢分享还是老车多细节既然没有原壳不如加个鼠笼改骑兵吧

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